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Poverty Statistics
NSCB Technical Committee on Poverty Statistics ![]()
Meetings
Annex TCPovStat-0204-03
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE FORUM ON POVERTY LINES
WITH DR. MARTIN RAVALLION
World Bank
3 December 2003, 9:00 a.m. – 12:00 noon
Issues |
Comments |
| On the Menu | |
1. Too stringent menu (80% nutritional adequacy for other vitamins and minerals) |
The Philippines need not worry on this issue |
2. Use of a cheaper commodity with the same caloric requirements (e.g., example on the 2 sets of menu using cassava and rice) |
For as long as the price data show that cassava is cheaper in one region compared to rice, it will be all right to use/include this in the bundle |
3. Obtaining the consumption pattern of a reference group, nationally (say, families within the 25-35% bandwidth) |
Families from some of the “richer” regions might not fall within the bandwidth. Bandwidth may be adjusted |
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In the official methodology, items in the menu are chosen not just because they are eaten in the area but more of they are cheap/low cost |
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Iteration and validation processes should be done by the NSCB, whenever the poverty incidence generated does not fall within the bandwidth initially set |
4. Tests of revealed preferences |
Issue on comparability across space, specifically on the menus of the “poorer” and “richer” regions |
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In the rapid appraisal during the forum, there seemed to be no preference for either of the menus (Bicol region, which is representative of the “poorer” region, and the National Capital region (NCR), which is representative of the “richer” region) |
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One participant indicated her preference of the Bicol menu over NCR while Dr. Ravallion preferred NCR’s menu to Bicol. The other participants were ambivalent on this issue |
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Suggestion to do revealed preference test |
On the Issue on Comparability Over Time |
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5. Options in addressing this issue |
1. Taking the poverty line in one reference period and update it using price index 2. Recalculating the poverty lines, which is more robust to survey comparability |
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Option no. 1 is almost similar to what is being done in the official methodology |
| On the estimation of the Non-food Threshold | |
6. Bank’s methodology |
Computed by getting the consumption behavior of those who can either just attain or just afford the food poverty line |
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Similar with the official methodology since it is getting the expenditure pattern of the families within the +/-10 percentile of the food threshold |
On income versus expenditure |
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7. Considerations |
Quality of income and expenditure data from the Family Income and Expenditures Survey (FIES)
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Possible problem in capturing income data from self-employment activities, informal sector, etc. |
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Problems in distinguishing and/or capturing consumption from expenditure data |
| Other Important Notes | |
8. Dr. Ravallion’s general comment on the issues on the Philippines ’ official poverty estimation methodology |
There is quite a narrow range of issues in the official poverty estimation methodology in the Philippines compared to other countries. Dr. Ravallion added that there is no one perfect method in estimating poverty |
- on the question on which is more important: changes in rankings of provinces or the trends in poverty incidence |
Would depend on the needs of the government’s intervention programs and projects |
10. Validation process |
In the case of Indonesia , consistency of the results using the official and the Bank’s methodologies were checked using Spearman’s rank correlation coefficients |
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Philippines can do similar exercises on correlations to check the robustness of the poverty estimates (including the rankings) |
11. Variation of food shares (FE/TBE ratio) across regions |
Suggestion to review data |
12. FIES sample size |
41,000 total sample families are relatively better compared to other countries in the Region |
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